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		<title>by: randar23rhenn</title>
		<link>http://www.geocreationism.com/blog/2006/12/17/genesis-15b-what-is-a-day/#comment-5926</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 03:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It is certainly interesting... I still just think it is a bit of a stretch. It seems like you have to read too much into what's there. I think you have an interesting line of reasoning, I just don't know if I personally buy it. 

I think that Moses did know how long the days were he was referencing, though not necessarily down to the amount of years. He knew it was a long time, but not eternity. Hence, "day", which elsewhere can mean much more time than 24 hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is certainly interesting&#8230; I still just think it is a bit of a stretch. It seems like you have to read too much into what&#8217;s there. I think you have an interesting line of reasoning, I just don&#8217;t know if I personally buy it. </p>
<p>I think that Moses did know how long the days were he was referencing, though not necessarily down to the amount of years. He knew it was a long time, but not eternity. Hence, &#8220;day&#8221;, which elsewhere can mean much more time than 24 hours.
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		<title>by: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.geocreationism.com/blog/2006/12/17/genesis-15b-what-is-a-day/#comment-5925</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 03:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Well, I'm sure Moses knew how long a day was in general. I just mean that he didn't know how long a creation day was. If you advocate a Day-Age theory however, then do you agree that Moses did not know how long a creation Day was for God?

Here's the thing that gets me: We know Jesus was at Creation doing the creating (John 1 + Proverbs 8 ). We know Jesus was with the Holy Spirit (Psalm 104). We know the Holy Spirit was hovering over the deep (Genesis 1:2). We know Jesus saw the entire earth before sunset. We know that each day ended with a sunset. We agree that each day maps to an age. To then conclude that God hovered in the sunlight until the end of that age does not seem to be that big a leap.

The reason I like this argument is because it is a literal interpretation, hence getting around a limitation that causes many scientifically-minded Christians to doubt their faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m sure Moses knew how long a day was in general. I just mean that he didn&#8217;t know how long a creation day was. If you advocate a Day-Age theory however, then do you agree that Moses did not know how long a creation Day was for God?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing that gets me: We know Jesus was at Creation doing the creating (John 1 + Proverbs 8 ). We know Jesus was with the Holy Spirit (Psalm 104). We know the Holy Spirit was hovering over the deep (Genesis 1:2). We know Jesus saw the entire earth before sunset. We know that each day ended with a sunset. We agree that each day maps to an age. To then conclude that God hovered in the sunlight until the end of that age does not seem to be that big a leap.</p>
<p>The reason I like this argument is because it is a literal interpretation, hence getting around a limitation that causes many scientifically-minded Christians to doubt their faith.
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		<title>by: randar23rhenn</title>
		<link>http://www.geocreationism.com/blog/2006/12/17/genesis-15b-what-is-a-day/#comment-5924</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 16:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think I see what you're saying a little more now, but one statement still gets to me:

"ersonally, I think Moses stuck to what he knew. He didn’t know how long a day was, so he never said how long...."

It seems to me that Moses would certainly have known how long a day was. The argument you seem to be making is that he didn't know how long the days were that he was writing about, but that just strikes me as odd. I prefer the day-age theory in the sense that a day for God is not the same as our own, and so when Moses used "day" he specifically meant it in correlation with the being he was discussing, namely, God. Perhaps this could bolster your argument as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I see what you&#8217;re saying a little more now, but one statement still gets to me:</p>
<p>&#8220;ersonally, I think Moses stuck to what he knew. He didn’t know how long a day was, so he never said how long&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>It seems to me that Moses would certainly have known how long a day was. The argument you seem to be making is that he didn&#8217;t know how long the days were that he was writing about, but that just strikes me as odd. I prefer the day-age theory in the sense that a day for God is not the same as our own, and so when Moses used &#8220;day&#8221; he specifically meant it in correlation with the being he was discussing, namely, God. Perhaps this could bolster your argument as well?
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		<title>by: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.geocreationism.com/blog/2006/12/17/genesis-15b-what-is-a-day/#comment-5923</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 04:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&gt;&gt;Why wouldn’t the author have been more clear about this? Do you see what I’m saying?

Yes, I do. Personally, I think Moses stuck to what he knew.  He didn't know how long a day was, so he never said how long.  But, he knew that each day was marked by evening and morning, so he wrote that.  He also knew the spirit of God was hovering over the deep, so He wrote that.  The rest is left for interpretation...

Consider: Does the "earth" ever experience evening?  Not as a whole. A place does, but the earth does not, because it is always morning somewhere, too.  Yet, we know God did His creating during the day, and that evening always followed.  So, unless Genesis is purely symbolic, God must have been creating from some physical perspective... and Genesis tells us that perspective: He was hovering over the deep, and hovering provides God the ability to stay in the day until He was done, however long that would be.

Consider also: once we see that a literal interpretation implies God chose a physical perspective, it suggest He physically saw His creation as well.  So, how much did God "see" before declaring it good?  Some of it, or all of it?  If He hovered over one spot on the earth, then He only some of it; if He hovered beneath sun, then He would have seen all of it.

Finally, who did the creating?  Combining John 1 and Proverbs 8, it would appear to be Jesus.  Giving Jesus a physical perspective makes complete sense.  He even has physical eyes with which to see.  He even uses the Holy Spirit to transport Himself sometimes, and we know the Holy Spirit was hovering, so I think Jesus was within the Holy Spirit, and that the Holy Spirit was most likely in the form of a cloud.

To truly take the Genesis account literally, this is the only interpretation I can find that works, lest it ruduce to mere allegory... and once you embrace this, then opens up the possibilities to an old earth.  For me, it was unavoidable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>>Why wouldn’t the author have been more clear about this? Do you see what I’m saying?</p>
<p>Yes, I do. Personally, I think Moses stuck to what he knew.  He didn&#8217;t know how long a day was, so he never said how long.  But, he knew that each day was marked by evening and morning, so he wrote that.  He also knew the spirit of God was hovering over the deep, so He wrote that.  The rest is left for interpretation&#8230;</p>
<p>Consider: Does the &#8220;earth&#8221; ever experience evening?  Not as a whole. A place does, but the earth does not, because it is always morning somewhere, too.  Yet, we know God did His creating during the day, and that evening always followed.  So, unless Genesis is purely symbolic, God must have been creating from some physical perspective&#8230; and Genesis tells us that perspective: He was hovering over the deep, and hovering provides God the ability to stay in the day until He was done, however long that would be.</p>
<p>Consider also: once we see that a literal interpretation implies God chose a physical perspective, it suggest He physically saw His creation as well.  So, how much did God &#8220;see&#8221; before declaring it good?  Some of it, or all of it?  If He hovered over one spot on the earth, then He only some of it; if He hovered beneath sun, then He would have seen all of it.</p>
<p>Finally, who did the creating?  Combining John 1 and Proverbs 8, it would appear to be Jesus.  Giving Jesus a physical perspective makes complete sense.  He even has physical eyes with which to see.  He even uses the Holy Spirit to transport Himself sometimes, and we know the Holy Spirit was hovering, so I think Jesus was within the Holy Spirit, and that the Holy Spirit was most likely in the form of a cloud.</p>
<p>To truly take the Genesis account literally, this is the only interpretation I can find that works, lest it ruduce to mere allegory&#8230; and once you embrace this, then opens up the possibilities to an old earth.  For me, it was unavoidable.
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		<title>by: randar23rhenn</title>
		<link>http://www.geocreationism.com/blog/2006/12/17/genesis-15b-what-is-a-day/#comment-5922</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I must admit that this seems a little bit like a stretch, though perhaps it is one way to reconcile the use of evening/morning/day here with billions of years. It makes some kind of sense, but it seems like it takes some serious work for the passage to take on this meaning. I guess what I'm thinking is: Why wouldn't the author have been more clear about this? Do you see what I'm saying?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must admit that this seems a little bit like a stretch, though perhaps it is one way to reconcile the use of evening/morning/day here with billions of years. It makes some kind of sense, but it seems like it takes some serious work for the passage to take on this meaning. I guess what I&#8217;m thinking is: Why wouldn&#8217;t the author have been more clear about this? Do you see what I&#8217;m saying?
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		<title>by: geocreationism.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;yom&#8221; - the Hebrew Word for &#8220;day&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.geocreationism.com/blog/2006/12/17/genesis-15b-what-is-a-day/#comment-145</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 06:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] In my post, Genesis 1:5b - What is a Day?, I explain how a day in Genesis 1 is defined by when Jesus intentionally experienced evenings and mornings.  However, I have received numerous responses of the following form: that &#8220;yom&#8221;, the word for day, always means 24-hour days, because its use in other scriptures are always meant to be treated as 24-hour days.  Therefore, the argument goes, creation days, which use the same word &#8220;yom&#8221;, must by necessity be 24-hour days.  In conclusion, I am twisting scripture to mean something it does not.  Naturally, I disagree. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] In my post, Genesis 1:5b - What is a Day?, I explain how a day in Genesis 1 is defined by when Jesus intentionally experienced evenings and mornings.  However, I have received numerous responses of the following form: that &#8220;yom&#8221;, the word for day, always means 24-hour days, because its use in other scriptures are always meant to be treated as 24-hour days.  Therefore, the argument goes, creation days, which use the same word &#8220;yom&#8221;, must by necessity be 24-hour days.  In conclusion, I am twisting scripture to mean something it does not.  Naturally, I disagree. [&#8230;]
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