Archive for the 'Original Sin' Category

What Came First, Sin or Original Sin?

Saturday, September 4th, 2010

As I wrote about in Genesis 9:8-11 - The Recipients of God’s Covenant with Noah (Part 3) - The others were in God’s image, too, most of the world today is not descended form Adam.  They were created in God’s image long before Adam.  Adam however is the first person to have been given a command to believe and obey from God, and so the first person to actually fall from grace.  The rest of the world was given no law from God, and so had no law to fall from.  What does that say …

Genesis 8:21-9:7 - God Changes the Game

Monday, August 30th, 2010

With the flood over, it would seem that God is looking back over the circumstances that led to the flood, and is given Noah and his family a slightly different set of rules by which to live.

Before the fall, God gave man plants to eat (Gen 1:29, 2:16), and animals to subdue (Gen 1:28, 2:18).  After the fall, God cursed the ground (Gen. 3:17), making it hard to till.  Rather than farm the ground, Abel decided to raise animals for food (Gen 4:2,4); Cain tilled the ground (Gen 4:2,3).  Now, how do we know Abel’s flocks were for food? Because he knew to give God the fat most flavorful part… the fat portions. 

Cain, it would seem, was the more obedient …

Genesis 9:1-3 - When did man start eating animals? (Part 3) - Was it Abel?

Thursday, August 26th, 2010

In Genesis 9:1-3 - When did man start eating animals? (Part 1) and Genesis 9:1-3 - When did man start eating animals? (Part 2), I make the assertion that mankind outside Adam and his descendants were eating animals long before Adam was even born.  Adam however was put into a garden, and given plants to eat and animals to care for.  When God cursed the ground, Adam’s descendants sinned further by eating the animals around them.  So, God used Noah to save representative samples of the animals there, killed off the people and remaining animals in their land, and then made the saved animals wild …

Genesis 9:1-3 - When did man start eating animals? (Part 2)

Monday, August 23rd, 2010

There are several arguments to be made, if one is to make the case that Genesis 9:3 is not the beginning of human carnivorism.  Theologically, they include the following:

Though sin can cause death, death is not sin
God’s statements in Genesis 9:1-3 were not a worldwide change
Adam’s descendants were eating meat already

Here is a good post to start with: 

Problems with Interpreting the Flood - Part 4 - Partial Revelation 

I have dealt with #1 at length already.  Here some good posts about it:

Genesis 2 - A recall of Genesis 1? No. …

Genesis 9:1-3 - When did man start eating animals? (Part 1)

Sunday, August 22nd, 2010

 1 Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. 2 The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands. 3 Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.
The verses complement the following excerpts in the Creation account:
Genesis 1:
  28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be …

Genesis 7:4 - When the Father Judges, Jesus Grieves

Saturday, July 17th, 2010

In Jesus, the Father’s Proxy on Earth and Jesus on Mount Sinai, I establish the idea of Christophanies in the Old Testament, essentially making the case that where we see God on earth, it is Jesus.  In Genesis 6 - Who Regretted Creating Mankind?, I use the same principals to suggest there was interplay between Jesus and God the Father in the Flood narrative.  It resolves a key problem skeptics point out, where God does not appear omniscient when He speaks (emphasis mine)…
 5 The LORD saw how great man’s wickedness on the earth had become, and that …

Problems with Interpreting the Flood - Part 3 - Evidence of Mankind

Sunday, July 11th, 2010

As I wrote in Problems with Interpreting the Flood - Part 2 - Evidence for Global Catastrophe, any physical evidence for The Flood used by Creation Scientists generally points at the KT Impact 65 million years ago, or at the global ocean that first formed on the earth around 4.5 billion years ago.  Furthermore, these two global events are strong evidence for God’s sequence of Creation recorded in Genesis 1.  This tells us that whatever else is true, The Flood was not a global event.  Otherwise, there would be evidence of it, and there is not.  However, this also tells us something else: …

Genesis 3 - The Fall of Man (Conclusion)

Monday, May 31st, 2010

…continued Genesis 3 - The Fall of Man (Part 7)
22 And the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” 23 So the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth …

Genesis 3 - The Fall of Man (Part 7)

Sunday, May 23rd, 2010

…continued from Genesis 3 - The Fall of Man (Part 6)
 21 The LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them.
A loving act amidst their punishment.  It is curious that God made garments of skin for Adam and Eve.  The skins would have come from an animal.  Is it possible God killed a couple of animals for them?  I think He did.  Notice earlier in the chapter:
 8 Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid …

Genesis 3 - The Fall of Man (Part 6)

Sunday, May 23rd, 2010

…continued from Genesis 3 - The Fall of Man (Part 5)
 20 Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the mother of all the living.
I happened upon an interesting commentary on this vers at Accuracy In Genesis.  How Big is All?  Here is the beginning of that article:
For a first example look at Genesis 3:20 where per the King James Version Adam pronounces Eve as

 

“the mother of all living”How big is this all ? Is it totally inclusive of all living matter, plants, bacteria, aquatic life, bugs, fowl, and all the mammals and all primates?

Was she “mother nature” ?Or …