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Update: Noah’s Flood started on April 20, 2807 BC

Tuesday, January 3rd, 2012

I have been working on a group of articles for http://geocreationism.com that attempts to organize the research documented on this blog for when the flood occurred. I have been attempting to verify my facts against additional sources, and when I got to the computation for the date written in Genesis 7:11, I found that the website I was using was incorrect. The date should be April 21, not May 2. This affects at least the following posts on this blog:

Honing in on the Date of the Flood — May 2, 2807 BC

Genesis 11:9 - The Tower of Babel - Young Earth Interpretation Supports an Old Earth (Part 3)

Saturday, June 11th, 2011

As we saw in Genesis 11:9 - The Tower of Babel - Young Earth Interpretation Supports an Old Earth (Part 2), there are Young Earthers who take quite a reasonable view of history, or at least how to use it. We reviewed an article that attempted to line up the Tower of Babel and the flood with actual historical evidence, and the author came within a few a hundred years of being correct, in my opinion. However, there was enough else that happened in the hundred years he was off by, that he missed a prime opportunity to see a much better historical fit than even he realized was there.

Here is another Young Earther article that also attempts to be …

Genesis 11:9 - The Tower of Babel - Young Earth Interpretation Supports an Old Earth (Part 2)

Friday, June 3rd, 2011

As we discussed in Genesis 11:9 - The Tower of Babel - Young Earth Interpretation Supports an Old Earth (Part 1), Genesis 11:9 uses the word eretz two times. According to a Young Earth interpretation of the verse, the first usage of eretz is a reference to all of the people in the world, who were all in Shinar. The second usage refers to the world beyond Shinar. 
 9 That is why it was called Babel—because there the LORD confused the language of the whole world. From there the LORD scattered them over the face of the whole earth.
An Old Earther would agree that “whole world” refers to the people of Shinar, but does this usage really mean there are no other people on the …

Genesis 11:5-8 - The Tower Babel - And the LORD Came Down… Twice

Thursday, May 19th, 2011

 5 But the LORD came down to see the city and the tower the people were building. 6 The LORD said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. 7 Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”

 8 So the LORD scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city.
Jubilees 10 records it as follows…
22 - And the Lord our God said unto us: Behold, they are one people, and (this) they begin to do, and now nothing …

Tower of Babel - A Post for Thoughts Without a Post

Monday, May 16th, 2011

Just some random thoughts:

18 - And in the three and thirtieth jubilee, in the first year in the second week, Peleg took to himself a wife, whose name was Lomna the daughter of Sina’ar, and she bare him a son in the fourth year of this week, and he called his name Reu; for he said: ‘Behold the children of men have become evil through the wicked purpose of building for themselves a city and a tower in the land of Shinar.’

19 - For they departed from the land of Ararat eastward to Shinar; for in his days they built the city and the tower, saying, ‘Go to, let us ascend thereby into heaven.’

20 - And they began to build, …

Genesis 11:3 - The Tower of Babel - The Science and History

Friday, May 6th, 2011

 3 They said to each other, “Come, let’s make bricks and bake them thoroughly.” They used brick instead of stone, and tar for mortar.
This verse has always been interesting to me. It suggests that under normal circumstances, stone would have been the common choice for their city and tower. Instead, they chose bricks, which they baked thoroughly. Verse 3 also suggests that not everyone used tar for mortar in their times, but they did. Apparently, they were being innovative.

When you think about the fact that building a tower and city from baked bricks and tar was sufficient in their mind to “make a name” for themselves, it suggests a level of innovation, that perhaps they were making history, or at least thought they were.

As I discuss …

Genesis 11:2 - The Tower of Babel - One Language, but Multiple Settlements

Monday, April 25th, 2011

In my last post, I made a mistake. In Genesis 11:1-2 - The Tower of Babel - Yes, one language, I summarized Genesis 1:1-2 as follows…
The people on the Plains of Shinar spoke Sumerian. Noah’s clans moved there.
I do not think that is accurate. Here are our verses again…
 1 Now the whole world had one language and a common speech. 2 As people moved eastward, they found a plain in Shinar and settled there.
Do you see the problem with verse 2? Nowhere are Noah’s clans mentioned, just people. Obviously, Noah’s clans ended up in the plains of Shinar, but if science is correct that there were people other than Noah’s clans, and …

Genesis 11:1-2 - The Tower of Babel - One Language?

Wednesday, April 20th, 2011

In Genesis 11:1 - The Tower of Babel - Development of Language, we discussed the possibility that the ”one language” and one “common speech” that “the whole world spoke” in Genesis 11:1 was Sumerian. This might seem to be a problem when you consider that Semitic languages go back almost as far (3rd to 4th millennium BC), because that mean there were two languages (or more) that were being spoken at the time, not just the one. If scripture is meant literally, then something must either be wrong with the scientific methods or the scripture, right?

A Young Earth Creationist would have no problem arguing that there is something wrong with the science used to establish the use of …

Mount St. Helens

Friday, April 1st, 2011

In Common Scientific Misunderstandings of Young Earth Creationists, I introduced an argument by Ryland regarding Mt. St. Helens. The argument is that this eruption was an example of rapid fossilization, and so debunks evolution. The apparent age of the fossils there seems millions of years old, yet we know it to be less than 30. At the time I had not researched it, and could not find arguments against his with which to refute. Well, tonight I had a discussion with a very nice couple who reminded me about this argument, and I think it’s time I addressed it.

The first response I have found against the Mt. St. Helens argument is here at http://www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/Wiens.html. It is point number …

Genesis 10 - Noah’s Family Tree - Babylon

Friday, March 18th, 2011

Noah > Ham > Cush > Nimrod >> Babylon

Babylon is the part of the Table of Nations that I have been putting off looking at. It is extremely prominent in both secular and Biblical history. To read that a Biblical character ruled it at one point seems almost fantastic. To read that the Tower of Babel was there makes one pause. Yet, as I have written so often on this blog, when you line up Biblical events with historical, the biblical seems to line up with the silence one finds within the historical. For example, the flood of 40 days and nights took place right when Sumer’s flood of 7 days took place. This …